Episodes

Wednesday Nov 08, 2023
S8E5: Remembering Our Future Beauty
Wednesday Nov 08, 2023
Wednesday Nov 08, 2023
It is easy to be amazed, even astonished in the presence of beauty. But it is just as easy to forget it, given how easily distracted we are by so many things. If it is true that what we pay attention to, we remember; and what we remember becomes our anticipated future, then we don’t just recall beauty for the sake of itself, we do so in order to shape the futures of our lives that we anticipate. And this is as much true for the parts of our stories that are traumatized as those for which we have fond memories.
Listen in as Pepper and Curt wade into how committing beauty to memory doesn’t just remind us of a past we love; it transforms our past traumas into futures we would otherwise find hard to imagine.
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Episode Links and References
- Artistic Offering discussed today: Shawshank Redemption movie
- Artistic Offering for next week: Gustav Holst; "Jupiter, The Bringer of Jollity"
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Special Thanks for our Season Sponsor - Compassion International
The world is currently facing a devastating global food crisis caused from numerous variables: the war in Ukraine, fertilizer shortages, effects of COVID-19, and extreme weather, just to name a few. Couple any of these with the fact that food prices are climbing, and hunger and malnutrition in vulnerable children intensify.
During this Being Known Podcast season, we invite you to join us in sponsoring a child with Compassion International. Just $43 a month provides a sponsored child with all their basic needs and the hope for a brighter future.
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Wednesday Nov 01, 2023
S8E4: As Beauty Makes Sense of Us
Wednesday Nov 01, 2023
Wednesday Nov 01, 2023
Once we sense beauty, we begin to tell a story about it. We make sense of it. We pay attention to it. We sometimes analyze it. But beauty often reveals things about us. In sensing things, we become aware of feelings and memories that before we were unaware of. In this way, we are enabled to tell our stories more truly. And all of this employs the horizontal domain of integration—the relationship between the right and left hemispheres of the brain.
Listen in as Curt and Pepper explore how the differences between our right and our left enable beauty to assist us in making better sense of our lives.
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Episode Links and References
- Artistic Offering discussed today: Take Five by Dave Brubeck
- Artistic Offering for next week: Shawshank Redemption movie
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Special Thanks for our Season Sponsor - Compassion International
The world is currently facing a devastating global food crisis caused from numerous variables: the war in Ukraine, fertilizer shortages, effects of COVID-19, and extreme weather, just to name a few. Couple any of these with the fact that food prices are climbing, and hunger and malnutrition in vulnerable children intensify.
During this Being Known Podcast season, we invite you to join us in sponsoring a child with Compassion International. Just $43 a month provides a sponsored child with all their basic needs and the hope for a brighter future.
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Stay connected:
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Wednesday Oct 25, 2023
S8E3: The Sense of Beauty
Wednesday Oct 25, 2023
Wednesday Oct 25, 2023
First, we sense. And then we make sense of what we sense. Beauty is not first something we think about. It is first something we behold with our senses. And our senses necessarily involve our bodies. For indeed, even when we imagine beauty in our mind, we use our brains to do so. This follows the sequence of creation in Genesis 2 when God first formed a body, and then breathed life into it.
Join Pepper and Curt as they explore the role of the body in encountering beauty, and how paying attention to the vertical domain of integration leads to greater awareness of beauty in our world, and in ourselves.
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Episode Links and References
- Artistic Offering discussed today: architecture by Frank Lloyd Wright
- Artistic Offering for next week: Take Five by Dave Brubeck
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Special Thanks for our Season Sponsor - Compassion International
The world is currently facing a devastating global food crisis caused from numerous variables: the war in Ukraine, fertilizer shortages, effects of COVID-19, and extreme weather, just to name a few. Couple any of these with the fact that food prices are climbing, and hunger and malnutrition in vulnerable children intensify.
During this Being Known Podcast season, we invite you to join us in sponsoring a child with Compassion International. Just $43 a month provides a sponsored child with all their basic needs and the hope for a brighter future.
. . . . .
Stay connected:
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- YouTube (Unedited videos of each episode AND the Post Show Conversation.)
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Wednesday Oct 18, 2023
S8E2: The Beauty of Awareness
Wednesday Oct 18, 2023
Wednesday Oct 18, 2023
In the path of oncoming beauty. Given that we are wired to pay attention to danger for the sake of protection, purposefully attuning to beauty can at times feel risky. But when we make it our intended purpose to create space for beauty, we find ourselves seeing any number of things that we didn’t before. Some of those things include our wounds that we have covered for longer than we know. But that only gives us the chance to imagine the emergence of beauty from parts of our lives that heretofore we could only imagine carnage.
Listen in as Curt and Pepper explore what it means to awaken, become alert and attuned to beauty, and how that can chart a course for a new direction of renewal in our lives.
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Episode Links and References
- Artistic Offering discussed today: Ansel Adams art
- Artistic Offering for next week: architecture by Frank Lloyd Wright
- Connections Conference 2023, hosted by Center for Being Known
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Special Thanks for our Season Sponsor - Compassion International
The world is currently facing a devastating global food crisis caused from numerous variables: the war in Ukraine, fertilizer shortages, effects of COVID-19, and extreme weather, just to name a few. Couple any of these with the fact that food prices are climbing, and hunger and malnutrition in vulnerable children intensify.
During this Being Known Podcast season, we invite you to join us in sponsoring a child with Compassion International. Just $43 a month provides a sponsored child with all their basic needs and the hope for a brighter future.
. . . . .
Stay connected:
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- YouTube (Unedited videos of each episode AND the Post Show Conversation.)
- Please subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode and we always welcome your reviews on Apple Podcasts.
- Sign up to access the Being Known Podcast applications, the weekly exercises that connect what you are learning to your life in a practical way.

Wednesday Oct 11, 2023
S8E1: In the Path of Oncoming Beauty
Wednesday Oct 11, 2023
Wednesday Oct 11, 2023
In the path of oncoming beauty. Sure, we have talked about this notion over many seasons of The Being Known Podcast. But of what practical value is it?
- How does it speak to our longings, our grief or the renewal of our relationships, communities and institutions?
- Is it merely an intellectual exercise, divorced from making a difference in my real life?
Join Pepper and Curt as they answer with a resounding, “No!” Instead, journey with them into the deeper recesses of what it means, exactly, to place yourself in the path of oncoming beauty, and discover how God’s resounding “Yes!” to beauty begins where we can’t see it, and ends with the new creation that is surely coming.
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Episode Links and References
- Roger Scruton book: Beauty
- Artistic Offering discussed today: Poem "As Kingfishers Catch Fire" by Gerard Manley Hopkins
- Artistic Offering for next week: Ansel Adams art
- Connections Conference 2023, hosted by Center for Being Known
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Special Thanks for our Season Sponsor - Compassion International
The world is currently facing a devastating global food crisis caused from numerous variables: the war in Ukraine, fertilizer shortages, effects of COVID-19, and extreme weather, just to name a few. Couple any of these with the fact that food prices are climbing, and hunger and malnutrition in vulnerable children intensify.
During this Being Known Podcast season, we invite you to join us in sponsoring a child with Compassion International. Just $43 a month provides a sponsored child with all their basic needs and the hope for a brighter future.
. . . . .
Stay connected:
- Instagram, Facebook
- YouTube (Unedited videos of each episode AND the Post Show Conversation.)
- Please subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode and we always welcome your reviews on Apple Podcasts.
- Sign up to access the Being Known Podcast applications, the weekly exercises that connect what you are learning to your life in a practical way.

Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
S7E7: End of Season Q&A
Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
Wednesday Jul 26, 2023
Thank you for joining us this season to learn about confessional communities. In this final season episode, Curt, Pepper and Amy answer listener questions to draw you closer to finding and creating your own community.
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Episode Links and References
- The Center for Being Known
- New Story Behavioral Health
- Connections Conference 2023 - Register today for this incredible Oct. 27 event on the theme of Emergence. PLUS, access to the Being Known Podcast LIVE on Thursday, Oct. 26
- The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope (pre-order now, available August 29, 2023)
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Special Thanks for our Season Sponsor - Compassion International
The world is currently facing a devastating global food crisis caused from numerous variables: the war in Ukraine, fertilizer shortages, effects of COVID-19, and extreme weather, just to name a few. Couple any of these with the fact that food prices are climbing, and hunger and malnutrition in vulnerable children intensify.
During this season of Being Known Podcast you can support Compassion International with a one time gift of $50 and you'll feed a family of five for a month. We are all part of a global community and hope you will consider giving.
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Stay connected:
- Instagram, Facebook, Twitter
- YouTube (Unedited videos of each episode AND the Post Show Conversations.)
- Please subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode and we always welcome your reviews on Apple Podcasts.
- Sign up to access the Being Known Podcast applications, the weekly exercises that connect what you are learning to your life in a practical way.

Wednesday Jul 19, 2023
S7E6: Confessional Communities: The Later Seasons
Wednesday Jul 19, 2023
Wednesday Jul 19, 2023
Welcome to season 7 of Being Known Podcast were we are continually looking at what it means to be truly known. This season we are exploring confessional communities.
How do we end anything well—and especially those experiences that have become so significant in our growth? Moreover, how do we say goodbye well in a culture that gives us very few resources in knowing how to do that? Pepper and Curt explore how bringing a confessional community to close—either for an individual who is leaving, or for the entire group that is coming to an end—is itself an opportunity for greater growth and integration as we practice for the heaven and earth that is coming.
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Episode Links and References
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Special Thanks for our Season Sponsor - Compassion International
The world is currently facing a devastating global food crisis caused from numerous variables: the war in Ukraine, fertilizer shortages, effects of COVID-19, and extreme weather, just to name a few. Couple any of these with the fact that food prices are climbing, and hunger and malnutrition in vulnerable children intensify.
During this season of Being Known Podcast you can support Compassion International with a one time gift of $50 and you'll feed a family of five for a month. We are all part of a global community and hope you will consider giving.
. . . . .
Stay connected:
- Instagram, Facebook, Twitter
- YouTube (Unedited videos of each episode AND the Post Show Conversations.)
- Please subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode and we always welcome your reviews on Apple Podcasts.
- Sign up to access the Being Known Podcast applications, the weekly exercises that connect what you are learning to your life in a practical way.

Wednesday Jul 12, 2023
S7E5.2: Confessional Communities: Learning to Love Doing the Work
Wednesday Jul 12, 2023
Wednesday Jul 12, 2023
Welcome to season 7 of Being Known Podcast were we are continually looking at what it means to be truly known. This season we are exploring confessional communities.
This week we are continuing the conversation we started last week to "love doing the work"
Over the course of time that a confessional community gathers, many things will be learned, including the process of growing in your awareness of what the process is actually doing to provide the opportunity for growth that you are experiencing. Pepper and Curt talk about that process of what happens in a confessional community that actually fosters the integration and wholeness that we so long to experience, and the beauty and goodness that we so long to become.
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Episode Links and References
- SIFT-B - Sense, Imagine, Feel, Think, Behave
- The Center for Being Known
- New Story Behavioral Health
- Artistic Offering - Mark Rothko, No. 61
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Special Thanks for our Season Sponsor - Compassion International
The world is currently facing a devastating global food crisis caused from numerous variables: the war in Ukraine, fertilizer shortages, effects of COVID-19, and extreme weather, just to name a few. Couple any of these with the fact that food prices are climbing, and hunger and malnutrition in vulnerable children intensify.
During this season of Being Known Podcast you can support Compassion International with a one time gift of $50 and you'll feed a family of five for a month. We are all part of a global community and hope you will consider giving.
. . . . .
Stay connected:
- Instagram, Facebook, Twitter
- YouTube (Unedited videos of each episode AND the Post Show Conversations.)
- Please subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode and we always welcome your reviews on Apple Podcasts.
- Sign up to access the Being Known Podcast applications, the weekly exercises that connect what you are learning to your life in a practical way.

Wednesday Jul 05, 2023
S7E5.1: Confessional Communities: Learning to Love Doing the Work
Wednesday Jul 05, 2023
Wednesday Jul 05, 2023
Welcome to season 7 of Being Known Podcast were we are continually looking at what it means to be truly known. This season we are exploring confessional communities.
Over the course of time that a confessional community gathers, many things will be learned, including the process of growing in your awareness of what the process is actually doing to provide the opportunity for growth that you are experiencing. Pepper and Curt talk about that process of what happens in a confessional community that actually fosters the integration and wholeness that we so long to experience, and the beauty and goodness that we so long to become.
. . . .
Episode Links and References
- SIFT-B - Sense, Imagine, Feel, Think, Behave
- The Center for Being Known
- New Story Behavioral Health
. . . . .
Special Thanks for our Season Sponsor - Compassion International
The world is currently facing a devastating global food crisis caused from numerous variables: the war in Ukraine, fertilizer shortages, effects of COVID-19, and extreme weather, just to name a few. Couple any of these with the fact that food prices are climbing, and hunger and malnutrition in vulnerable children intensify.
During this season of Being Known Podcast you can support Compassion International with a one time gift of $50 and you'll feed a family of five for a month. We are all part of a global community and hope you will consider giving.
. . . . .
Stay connected:
- Instagram, Facebook, Twitter
- YouTube (Unedited videos of each episode AND the Post Show Conversations.)
- Please subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode and we always welcome your reviews on Apple Podcasts.
- Sign up to access the Being Known Podcast applications, the weekly exercises that connect what you are learning to your life in a practical way.

Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
S7E4: Confessional Communities: Getting Started
Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
Welcome to season 7 of Being Known Podcast were we are continually looking at what it means to be truly known. This season we are exploring confessional communities.
This week, Pepper and Curt walk you through the early stages of starting a confessional community, the questions that might come up, and what is necessary to get yourself ready to be part of one.
- How does a Confessional Community get started?
- What are the fundamental requirements, and am I ready to dive in?
- Who are the people and how many can be in one?
- How long do they last?
- Do you need to have a leader who is a trained therapist?
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Episode Links and References
- Artistic Offering - "Bailero" sung by Netania Davrath
- The Center for Being Known
- New Story Behavioral Health
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Special Thanks for our Season Sponsor - Compassion International
The world is currently facing a devastating global food crisis caused from numerous variables: the war in Ukraine, fertilizer shortages, effects of COVID-19, and extreme weather, just to name a few. Couple any of these with the fact that food prices are climbing, and hunger and malnutrition in vulnerable children intensify.
During this season of Being Known Podcast you can support Compassion International with a one time gift of $50 and you'll feed a family of five for a month. We are all part of a global community and hope you will consider giving.
. . . . .
Stay connected:
- Instagram, Facebook, Twitter
- YouTube (Unedited videos of each episode AND the Post Show Conversations.)
- Please subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode and we always welcome your reviews on Apple Podcasts.
- Sign up to access the Being Known Podcast applications, the weekly exercises that connect what you are learning to your life in a practical way.