Episodes

Oct 5, 2022
S5E11: End of Season Q&A
Oct 5, 2022
Oct 5, 2022
41 min
We've come to the end of our season where we talked in-depth with personal stories as it related to Curt's book, The Soul of Shame.
In this end of season episode we review our conversations, answer your questions, and pull it all together. We won’t be ashamed if we don’t answer all your questions, though we know we wish we could.
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Episode Links and References
- Connections Conference hosted by The Center for Being Known
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Sep 28, 2022
S5E10: Renewing Vocational Creativity
Sep 28, 2022
Sep 28, 2022
48 min
Welcome to season 5 episode 10 where this season we are bringing you personal stories and deep teaching into Curt’s book, The Soul of Shame. This week we are looking at chapter 9, “Renewing Vocational Creativity”.
Human beings were made in God’s image in order that we might create and curate beauty and goodness in the world, not least through all of our acts of work, whether we are paid for it or not. But evil finds any and all of that creativity to be anathema.
No wonder then, that evil has no intention of using shame merely to make us feel bad. Mostly, it wields it to devour the beauty and goodness that God has had in mind for us to co-create with him from before the foundation of the world.
This week we discover how the healing of shame was, in God’s mind, never just about making us feel better about ourselves, but rather about our joining him in the new creation that is here and is surely coming.
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Thank you to our sponsors
Hon’s Honey - Hon's Honey is a social enterprise dedicated to giving dignity and purpose to women survivors of trauma. They believe in healing, second chances and new chapters, and so do we. Use code BEINGKNOWN to receive 20% off your order.
Hope Heals - Hope Heals Camp is a truly unique offering in the world. No other space in existence today invites families experiencing disabilities – of any age, with any diagnosis, from any place – to enjoy multi-day respite, a rich network of relationships, and access to world class Christ-centered resources, all free of charge.
The week-long camp experience empowers suffering people to embrace their “good/hard” stories by choosing to see the God-given purpose in their pain.
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Episode Links and References
- Connections Conference hosted by The Center for Being Known
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Sep 21, 2022
Sep 21, 2022
50 min
Welcome to season 5 episode 9 where this season we are bringing you personal stories and deep teaching into Curt’s book, The Soul of Shame. This week we are looking at chapter 8, “Redeeming Shame in Our Nurturing Communities”.
Shame doesn’t just appear out of nowhere. Shame begins in the earliest communities in which we dwell. It is to those communities we now turn to see how shame emerges there – but also what we can to retell the stories of those communities: our families, our churches, and schools.
Listen in as we get to the bottom of the places where our stories begin, and begin to reimagine how God can transform them on the way to doing the same for the larger communities in which we live.
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Thank you to our sponsors
- Hon’s Honey - Hon's Honey is a social enterprise dedicated to giving dignity and purpose to women survivors of trauma. They believe in healing, second chances and new chapters, and so do we. Use code BEINGKNOWN to receive 20% off your order.
- Hope Heals - Hope Heals Camp is a truly unique offering in the world. No other space in existence today invites families experiencing disabilities – of any age, with any diagnosis, from any place – to enjoy multi-day respite, a rich network of relationships, and access to world class Christ-centered resources, all free of charge.
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Episode Links and References
- Connections Conference hosted by The Center for Being Known
- The Bible Project, a non-profit animation studio that produces short-form, fully animated videos to make the biblical story accessible to everyone, everywhere. They create videos, podcasts, and study guides that explore the Bible’s unified story.
- Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol Dweck
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Sep 14, 2022
S5E8: Our Healing Cloud of Witnesses
Sep 14, 2022
Sep 14, 2022
47 min
Welcome to season 5 episode 8 where this season we are bringing you personal stories and deep teaching into Curt’s book, The Soul of Shame. This week we are looking at chapter 7, “Our Healing Cloud of Witnesses”.
For shame to be healed and our lives recommissioned, we need more than good information so we can simply appropriate it on our own as individuals. In the same way that we were made as contingent, co-regulating people who, made in God’s image, require the presence of others for our healthy growth and development, we also need a community for the healing of our shame.
A community that can bear witness to our lives and provide guidance in the re-telling of our stories. Fortunately, we have a model for how to do that.
Join us as we examine what it means to live truly before a body of people who help us see Jesus seeing us more truly, so that we can see ourselves in the way.
Hebrews 12:1-2
Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
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Thank you to our sponsor… Hope Heals!
Hope Heals Camp is a truly unique offering in the world. No other space in existence today invites families experiencing disabilities – of any age, with any diagnosis, from any place – to enjoy multi-day respite, a rich network of relationships, and access to world class Christ-centered resources, all free of charge.
The week-long camp experience empowers suffering people to embrace their “good/hard” stories by choosing to see the God-given purpose in their pain.
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Episode Links and References
- Connections Conference hosted by The Center for Being Known
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Stay connected:
- YouTube (Unedited videos of each episode AND the Post Show Conversations.)
- Please subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode and we always welcome your reviews on Apple Podcasts.

Sep 7, 2022
S5E7: Shame’s Remedy: Vulnerability
Sep 7, 2022
Sep 7, 2022
48 min
Welcome to season 5 episode 7 where this season we are bringing you personal stories and deep teaching into Curt’s book, The Soul of Shame. This week we are looking at chapter 6, “Shame’s Remedy: Vulnerability”.
Hiding and isolation are hallmarks of shame. Moreover, the very notion of exposing our shame is…shaming.
Who knew that the very thing that we are most fearful of—our shame being exposed—is the place we need to begin to discover shame’s healing, and to have our stories begin to be told more truly.
This week we talk about how, like so much of the rest of the story of the gospel, it is in our vulnerability—that very place in which our shame first took place and took shape—that lies the key to its regeneration..
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Thank you to our sponsor… Hope Heals!
Hope Heals offers the Hope Heals Camp is a truly unique offering in the world. No other space in existence today invites families experiencing disabilities – of any age, with any diagnosis, from any place – to enjoy multi-day respite, a rich network of relationships, and access to world class Christ-centered resources, all free of charge.
The week-long camp experience empowers suffering people to embrace their “good/hard” stories by choosing to see the God-given purpose in their pain.
. . . . .
Episode Links and References
- Connections Conference hosted by The Center for Being Known
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Stay connected:
- YouTube (Unedited videos of each episode AND the Post Show Conversations.)
- Please subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode and we always welcome your reviews on Apple Podcasts.

Aug 31, 2022
S5E6: Shame and the Biblical Narrative
Aug 31, 2022
Aug 31, 2022
42 min
Welcome to season 5 episode 6 where this season we are bringing you personal stories and deep teaching into Curt’s book, The Soul of Shame. This week we are looking at chapter 6, “Shame and the Biblical Narrative”.
At the heart of all that the Bible is lies a story. YES, a story about humans and all that we are. But even more so, a story about a God and who he is. In many ways, the Bible is the story that God is telling about us.
Given what we have learned thus far about how shame infects the way we tell stories to gain the upper hand, we don’t just need a better story, we need a better story teller.
This week we’ll see that the biblical narrative is not just some feel-good fairy tale. It’s the hardest, most beautiful story you’ve ever heard. And evil is working overtime, using shame to keep you from hearing the story that God is telling you about you – and the world of beauty and goodness in which you are to play a central role.
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Thank you to our sponsor… Hon’s Honey!
Hon’s Honey is a social enterprise dedicated to giving dignity and purpose to women survivors of trauma. They believe in healing, second chances and chapters (and so do we). Use code BEINGKNOWN to receive 20% off your order.
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Episode Links and References
- Connections Conference hosted by The Center for Being Known
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Stay connected:
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- Please subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode and we always welcome your reviews on Apple Podcasts.

Aug 24, 2022
S5E5: The Story of Shame You Are Living
Aug 24, 2022
Aug 24, 2022
44 min
Welcome to season 5 episode 5 where this season we are bringing you personal stories and deep teaching into Curt’s book, The Soul of Shame. This week we are looking at chapter 4, “The Story of Shame You Are Living”.
We’re all storytellers. Unlike any other living creature, humans are the only animals that tell stories in the way we do.
It is in those stories that our shame takes up residence, with all of the mechanics we have learned about so far, and begins to tell a story that leads to our destruction. Hence, it’s not enough to know about the mechanics of how shame works. We also need to know where in our stories shame first inserted itself.
SO… which story does each of us believe we are living? The answers we discover may surprise you, and will also begin to pave the way toward freedom from the straitjacket in which shame has bound us.
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Episode Links and References
- Connections Conference hosted by The Center for Being Known
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Stay connected:
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Aug 17, 2022
S5E4: Joy, Shame and the Brain
Aug 17, 2022
Aug 17, 2022
44 min
Welcome to season 5 episode 4 where this season we are bringing you personal stories and deep teaching into Curt’s book, The Soul of Shame. This week we are looking at chapter 3, “Joy, Shame and the Brain”.
We were made for joy.
The bible and our greatest literature attest to this. But not only this: research in attachment reflects that joyful human relationships are the key to our well-being.
No wonder, then, that shame targets our experience of joy as its first priority in disintegrating us, disconnecting us from ourselves and each other.
This week we examine why joy is so important to practice—yep, you read that right: practice—and how shame will do anything it can to rob us of as much of it as it can.
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Episode Links and References
- Mindset: The New Psychology of Success by Carol Dweck
- Affect Regulation and the Repair of the Self by Allan Schore
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Thank you to our sponsor!
Hon’s Honey: Hon's Honey is a social enterprise dedicated to giving dignity and purpose to women survivors of trauma. They believe in healing, second chances and new chapters, and so do we. Use code BEINGKNOWN to receive 20% off your order.
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Stay connected:
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- Please subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode and we always welcome your reviews on Apple Podcasts.
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Aug 10, 2022
S5E3: How Shame Targets the Mind
Aug 10, 2022
Aug 10, 2022
31 min
Welcome to season 5 episode 3 where this season we are bringing you personal stories and deep teaching into Curt’s book, The Soul of Shame. This week we are looking at chapter 2, How Shame Targets the Mind.
It has been said, “Keep your friends close. And keep your enemies closer.” If we want to know what evil is up to as it uses shame in its quest to devour us, the first thing to know is how the mind works—so that we will also know where and how evil is doing its dirty work.
In this episode, we review the fundamental features of the mind—such as the nine domains of integration, attention and emotion—and discover where and how shame, like the evil that is wielding it, parasitically uses the very way our minds work to undo us and all of God’s good creation in the process.
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Episode Links and References
Being Known Podcast season 2 on the nine domains of integration and how the mind works.
- S2E1 – An overview of the mind and the nine domains
- S2E2 – Domain of consciousness
- S2E3 – Vertical domain of the mind
- S2E4 – Horizontal domain of the mind
- S2E5 – Domain of memory
- S2E6 – Narrative domain of integration
- S2E7 – State domain of integration
- S2E8 – Interpersonal domain of integration
- S2E9 – Temporal domain of mental activity
- S2E10 – Transpirational domain of the mind
- S2E11 – Overview of the season
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Aug 3, 2022
S5E2: Our Problem with Shame
Aug 3, 2022
Aug 3, 2022
45 min
Welcome to season 5 episode 2 where this season we are bringing you personal stories and deep teaching into Curt’s book, The Soul of Shame. This week we are looking at chapter 1, Our Problem with Shame.
It’s not enough to know what shame IS. We also have to know how and where it works. Our problem with shame is not just a sensation in which we feel bad. It’s about all the ways that it hijacks our mind, relationships, and mostly, the story in which we believe we’re living.
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Thank you to our sponsor!
Hon’s Honey: Hon's Honey is a social enterprise dedicated to giving dignity and purpose to women survivors of trauma. They believe in healing, second chances and new chapters, and so do we. Use code BEINGKNOWN to receive 20% off your order.
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Stay connected:
- YouTube (Unedited videos of each episode AND the Post Show Conversations.)
- Please subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode and we always welcome your reviews on Apple Podcasts.
- Sign up to access the Being Known Podcast applications, the weekly exercises that connect what you are learning to your life in a practical way.

