Episodes

Wednesday May 18, 2022
S4E12 Wrap Q&A
Wednesday May 18, 2022
Wednesday May 18, 2022
Being Known Podcast normally ends our season with a wrap up episode highlighting each episode with one more nugget of wisdom. This season we mixed things up a bit and asked our listeners and followers what they wanted to know more about.
We received over 40 questions seeking additional wisdom on sexual trauma, generational trauma, trauma and the church and more.
A few of the questions asked include:
- How does trauma play out in our relationship with God? And how does this affect our ability to attune to God?
- Can trauma cause a type of amnesia where we forget past events? And why/how does this happen?
- If I already have grown children, is it too late to heal my trauma and not pass my trauma onto my kids?
In Curt’s own words, “I thoroughly enjoyed this opportunity to end the season. It allowed us to be live action and real time. It offered us a glimpse of what people are learning and what they desire to learn more about.”
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Wednesday May 11, 2022
S4E11 Healing Trauma: The Wholeness of Integration
Wednesday May 11, 2022
Wednesday May 11, 2022
Welcome to Season 4 of Being Known Podcast where we are looking at trauma through the lens of hope and not fear. This week we talk on how we can begin to heal from trauma with a look at the wholeness of integration.
We were made to create beauty and goodness in the world. But evil has other plans, and wields trauma as a way to devour us before that goodness and beauty can be realized.
But - God had other plans beyond those of evil – plans that evil never saw coming, and still doesn’t. For indeed, God’s intention is not to ignore trauma, but wade right into it and right up to it, allowing himself to be subjected to its worst possible form. And so, despite the traumatic execution by crucifixion of a prisoner from a backwater village of a now non-existent ancient empire on a non-descript Friday – we call that Friday Good because God has come not merely to be with us in our trauma, but to transform them, bringing us to wholeness, to beauty and goodness, in ways we could never imagine.
Join us as we, together, imagine Jesus coming to find us in the bomb craters that make up the story of our lives – and as we then tell a new story of beauty and goodness that will transform our minds, and change our brains along the way.
Links, References and Resources
- Boundaries for Your Soul by Alison Cook, PhD. and Kimberly Miller
- Try Softer by Aundi Kolber
- Brainspotting by David Grand
- Generations Deep by Gina Birkemeier
- My Grandmother’s Hands by ResmaaMenakem
- Reparations by Gregory Thompson and Duke Kwon
Scripture References
- Mark 5:25-24
- Mark 3:20-34
- Luke 24:13-35
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Wednesday May 04, 2022
S4E10 Healing Trauma: The Power of Presence
Wednesday May 04, 2022
Wednesday May 04, 2022
Welcome to Season 4 of Being Known Podcast where we are looking at trauma through the lens of hope and not fear. This week we talk on how we can begin to heal from trauma.
If there is anything we know about trauma, it’s that it depends on disintegration and isolation to do its dirty work. And if there’s anything we know about its healing, it’s that the presence of others is the beginning of integration, which leads to the creation of beauty and goodness in the face of painfully broken stories.
But it’s tricky: for the very thing we need the most – the presence of loving relationships – is often the context in which our traumas are initially taking place.
This week we talk about how we can begin to practice the presence of God and of others – the presence that we need despite our error that it is something we won’t be able to survive.
Links and References
- Healing Trauma: A Pioneering Program for Restoring the Wisdom of Your Body by Peter Levine
- 8 Keys to Safe Trauma Recovery: Take-Charge Strategies to Empower Your Healing by Babette Rothschild
- Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe
Scripture References
- John 15:4 – Abide in Me
- Matthew 28:20 – I am with you always
- 1 Corinthians 12 – The body of Christ
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Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
S4E9 Trauma and the Church
Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
Wednesday Apr 27, 2022
Welcome to Season 4 of Being Known Podcast where we are looking at trauma through the lens of hope and not fear. This week we are looking at trauma caused by the church.
One thing we know about infections: some of the most difficult to treat are actually contracted inside hospitals. How is it that the place where we come to heal can also be the very place where some of our most painful experiences of trauma occur?
From pastoral and spiritual abuse to sexual assault that spares no denominational traditions, that place where we would expect to be as safe as any, can at times seem like just the opposite. And who would want to have anything to do with a God that would appear to turn a blind eye to such behavior?
Join us as we pull the curtain back on what it means to encounter trauma in the church – only to discover that what we encounter may surprise us, especially when we find out that none of it surprises Jesus. And he is just the one we need to help us make sense out of what makes no sense at all.
Links and References
- Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church by Diane Langberg
- When Narcissism Comes to Church by Chuck DeGroat
- The Wounded Healer: Ministry in Contemporary Society by Henri Nouwen
Scripture References
- 1 Peter 5:6-11
- Mark 2:17
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Wednesday Apr 20, 2022
S4E8 Family and Generational Trauma
Wednesday Apr 20, 2022
Wednesday Apr 20, 2022
Welcome to Season 4 of Being Known Podcast where we are looking at trauma through the lens of hope and not fear. This week we are talking families!
Despite our fierce commitment to individualism, trauma is far more likely to follow the way the mind has actually been made, rather than the way we have for the last several hundred years tried to pretend that it works. We would like to think that the trauma that we experience or perpetrate will only have effects on us or the ones upon whom we inflict it.
But that would not be true to the way the brain works. As we will discover, what happens in one generation doesn’t necessarily stay in that generation. Rather, it can have the tendency to travel down ancestral lines, leaving others to pay the price for events that occurred long before they were even born.
Join Pepper and Curt as we discover the steam that the train of trauma can gather over the course of generations—and what we can begin to do to stop it in its tracks.
Links and References
- It Didn't Start with You by Mark Wolynn
Scripture References
- Numbers 14:18
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Wednesday Apr 13, 2022
S4E7 Sexual Trauma
Wednesday Apr 13, 2022
Wednesday Apr 13, 2022
Welcome to Season 4 of Being Known Podcast where we are looking at trauma through the lens of hope and not fear. This week we are looking at the sensitive, hard and beautiful topic of sexual trauma.
What is it about sex that seems to make everything – especially trauma – so much more difficult? Moreover, how is sexual trauma so much more debilitating than some other forms of our topic? No matter how much we would like to wish otherwise, there is just no getting around the fact that few things shatter lives more than the events of trauma that surround our sexuality.
This week we wade into this sensitive – and beautiful – topic.
It’s sensitive because it addresses the parts of what it means to be most fragile as human beings. And beautiful because it addresses those same parts from which our greatest vulnerability and generativity spring forth.
If your story is being told through the lens of sexual trauma, Jesus is at the ready to meet you to make sure you begin to tell your story very differently.
Links and References
- Healing the Wounded Heart: The Heartache of Sexual Trauma and the Hope of Transformation by Dan Allender
- The Chosen: Season 1 Episode 1
Scripture References
- Genesis 1:25
- Genesis 3
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Wednesday Apr 06, 2022
S4E6 Trauma and Shame: Self-Perpetuation
Wednesday Apr 06, 2022
Wednesday Apr 06, 2022
Welcome to Season 4 of Being Known Podcast where we are looking at trauma through the lens of hope and not fear.
This week we connect trauma and shame.
Of all the things trauma can do, its capacity for self-perpetuation is unmatched. And at the core of that experience is our neurophysiological encounter with shame. Be it the way we sense the world, or the story we tell about what we are sensing, evil will want to use shame to strengthen the experience of isolation that we feel in response to traumatic events.
But God has no intention of leaving us in shame’s wake, and with the coming of Jesus – not least his own experience of trauma and the shame it carried – we have a model for how shame can be addressed as our trauma is healed.
Listen as we discover how connection dispels shame, making it possible for us to imagine and live into life that is beyond our wounds.
Links and References
- Anatomy of the Soul by Curt Thompson, MD
- The Soul of Shame by Curt Thompson, MD
Scripture References
- Creation Story in Genesis
- Ezekiel 36:26
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Wednesday Mar 30, 2022
S4E5 Trauma and the Body: “Then the Lord God Formed the Man…”
Wednesday Mar 30, 2022
Wednesday Mar 30, 2022
Welcome to Season 4 of Being Known Podcast where we are looking at trauma through the lens of hope and not fear.
This week we connect trauma and the brain. To the great surprise of many, our bodies are how our minds most often and most powerfully let us in on reality. As we like to say in the business, first we sense, and only then do we make sense of what we sense.
But what if our “sensing” mechanism, the body, has been the very thing that has encountered so much physical, sexual, or emotional bludgeoning? Those who have experienced trauma often perceive that their bodies have been violated, and in some twisted ways have also betrayed them. Then their bodies go on to keep the bad work of continual betrayal.
In this way, trauma becomes something that our bodies themselves remember in ways that we are often unaware of. What are we to do?
Today, we pull back the curtain on how the body can be wounded, but also how we can begin to take the first steps toward inviting that same body to become the very source of our healing, long before we are able to imagine in our thinking minds.
Scripture References
- Genesis 2:7
- Genesis 2:21-23
- John 16:33
Links and References
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Wednesday Mar 23, 2022
S4E4 Trauma and the Brain: It’s Not What You Think
Wednesday Mar 23, 2022
Wednesday Mar 23, 2022
Welcome to Season 4 of Being Known Podcast where we are looking at trauma through the lens of hope and not fear.
This week we continue looking at the mind.
If the mind goes first, it necessarily will involve the brain. Therefore, in this episode, we will explore how trauma affects the brain in particular – not least how it perceives our inner and outer worlds – and how being aware of this can give us clues to hour our healing can begin.
Join Curt and Pepper as we discover how the brain is for far more than thinking, and that paying attention to all the other things it does can usher us into the healing process in ways we might not easily guess. Along the way, we will be reminded that even when the brain has had a tough go of it, God is always able to go one better.
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Wednesday Mar 16, 2022
S4E3 Trauma and the Mind: Shattering Beauty
Wednesday Mar 16, 2022
Wednesday Mar 16, 2022
Welcome to Season 4 of Being Known Podcast where we are looking at trauma through the lens of hope and not fear.
This week we begin our exploration of how trauma affects us at the beginning—for it is with our minds that we perceive that trauma has occurred in the first place and what its nature is. Pepper and Curt review what the mind is and how trauma affects it.
Listen in as we catch the first glimpses of the effects of trauma and what we need to pay attention to as we seek its healing. We’ll see together how, if beauty is what God has intended for all of creation—ourselves included—to become, trauma is one way evil will attempt to devour that beauty before it is realized. But keep in mind that despite the ways that trauma can shatter our mind, God never runs out of options.
Links and References:
- The Soul of Desire by Curt Thompson, MD
- The Soul of Shame by Curt Thompson, MD
- Anatomy of the Soul by Curt Thompson, MD
- The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk
- Suffering and the Heart of God by Diane Langberg
- Healing Trauma by Peter Levine
- It Didn’t Start with You by Mark Wolynn
- Try Softer by Audi Kolber
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